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Torrents! (30/12/2006 04:27)
Every now and then, I find the urge to download some files, either this or that. Usually, it's some kind of TV-series that has never been shown in this small country. Often it leads to me buying the series on DVD as soon as I find it, because it is a different feeling watching the darned things from an original DVD: Better Audio, better Video, proper subtitles, and it looks cool in the bookshelf.

Before everyone jumps on the anti-piracy bandwagon here, no, we do not recommend downloading stuff you are not allowed to download.

Piracy is not the topic for this blog-entry anyways, I have something different in mind: The clients used for downloading.

I have tried several different ones, like Kazaa, Kazaa light, E-Mule / E-Donkey, Limewire, BearShare, Morpheus, BitTorrent, Azerus and uTorrent to mention some. All of these "do the same thing" but in different ways and with different degrees of efficiency.

To pick the one I think is the best one, I have gone by the following criteria:

1: I want no adware / spyware / whatever-ware
2: I want it to be gentle on my system-resources so it does not interfere with me doing other things on the computer
3: I need to see some good speeds so the downloads finish within a reasonable timeframe
4: It doesn't have to have every godforsaken MP3 in the world, 99,5% of these are of no use to me

One thing to consider right away, is which "network" or which "protocol" you should aim for. Some of these programs use the GnuTella network / protocol, while others use the more modern BitTorrent-protocol. So here is your first choice.

If what you are after is single MP3s, the GnuTella network is probably best if you wish to cover as many songs as possible. It is good for many small downloads, but I would not recommend it if you are after movies, series or other huge files.
Of these clients, I think BearShare comes with too much "crap", and Morpheus has become more and more of a strain on computer resources. LimeWireMy choice here would be Limewire, which trades away a bit of speed for a lot less resources.


If you are after mostly bigger things than single MP3's, my experience tells me you should find a BitTorrent client.
It's easy enough to find the torrent-files you need too, you can just search for them on Google. Try searching for any movie or tv-series followed by "torrent" in the search-box, and voila!

There are several clients to choose from, and here the difference between the clients is HUGE!

BitTorrent
I started out using the client called BitTorrent, thinking I was smart to use "the original client".
It's interface has changed a bit the past 18 months, but I felt I could live with the awkward look and lack of options as I was using "the original" (and thus presumably the best) client. I was SO WRONG!
BitTorrent is a MONSTER in terms of wasting system-resources. It's hunger for more and more memory became a huge problem, and soon it was impossible to do anything else with the computer while it was downloading. My advice: Don't bother!

I did try Azerus for a while too. It's java-based, so it requires the full Java Real Time package, which you can get at java.com.
It's has a better interface then BitTorrent, and uses less memory, but being Java it is more hungry for CPU. It is also marginally slower in my experience. All in all, it's ok I guess, but nothing more.

My clear and decisive winner is a tiny program called uTorrent. It is just 170K!
And the amount of system-resources it uses is very small when compared to the other clients:
As an example, I had 6 different torrents being downloaded with BitTorrent. The monster spent a staggering 399 MB of memory!
Then I switched to uTorrent....The result was shocking, memory consumption dropped to 23 MB!
And that's not all. The speed of the downloads doubled!
And if that wasn't enough of a surprise, the CPU-usage dropped to 0-1%!

So there you have it, my clear winner and choice:
uTorrent

(You can download it here!)

What do YOU use? What is your experience?
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Zz00029246 wrote:
10:24 30/12 2006
pictureI've used Limewire before, but my elder brother says its a load of rubbish, and that i should use BearShare. I also found that if you want MP3's, Blubster would be the best option just like uTorrent, as it takes up less room, and yet it is much faster :P
Zz00037103 wrote:
10:51 30/12 2006
pictureyep utorrent here as well. I used to use BitComet and azureas. Definitely found utorrent to be the best.
MrStian wrote:
19:07 30/12 2006
pictureI use µTorrent to download my torrent and Frostwire to download my MP3s :)
Sometimes I even use DC++ if I can't find things on torrent, but that happens very seldom..
Sebas wrote:
23:11 30/12 2006
pictureBest and fastest option for me are always newsgroups. If you have a decent newsserver from your isp or a cheap subleetcodeion to a good one you can download whatever is on the newsgroups at full speed with no waiting or anything like that.
Zz00004861 wrote:
05:11 31/12 2006
pictureAzerus is the best, find it at sourceforge - open source product.
Zz00004861 wrote:
05:12 31/12 2006
picturen/m everyone hates Azerus and you already tried it.
Zz00011355 wrote:
05:57 31/12 2006
pictureI love Azures, I have been able to get sustained download rates of over 300kb/s. And by sustained I mean for more then half an hour. I also like limewire for small files but agree that the actual thing tends to be much better, evven if it is less convienent
Zz00035044 wrote:
19:09 01/01 2007
picture

Nah I use Bearshare I just think its simple and does the job. :-) Well I only download MP3s I don't know if it's good for anything else.   :-D

Zz00009306 wrote:
01:28 02/01 2007
picturePeer2Peer is and always has been a waste of time.
Zz00034784 wrote:
17:41 03/01 2007
picturelime wire is the best :P
Zz00030837 wrote:
18:26 03/01 2007
pictureFirst - my apologies to Spinner for using his blog comments to rant, but I cannot allow someone to completely dismiss P2P in ten words.

Heroes - it seems that you are either being deliberately controversial, or that you are just spectacularly ignorant. P2P is the future of the Internet and the way that EVERYTHING needs to go in the long run. How can you say that something that allows everyone to make full use of all their available bandwidth (both downstream and upstream) is "a waste of time"? The client-server architecture is rapidly becoming old hat, because it means that all the costs of downloading are passed onto one person - the person who kindly put the content there for download in the first place. They would receive absolutely MASSIVE bandwidth bills if they had to serve anything like the volume of content that P2P can serve.

With the increasing speed of internet connections and the increasing size of files (despite amazing compression technology) this is only going to become more of a problem. These days, it would only take twenty averagely fast home broadband connections (5mbit/sec downstream each) downloading at full speed to compeletely saturate a 100mbit/sec link, which is more than the majority of average webservers actually have.

Of course all this is fine, if you actually want to be permanently sitting in queues to download things, and then only getting a slow speed when you do manage to download. Think about it - what sensible server admin is going to allow their entire 100mbit link to be taken over by only 20 connections? They would have to set their server daemon to allow at least 100 concurrent connections, meaning that you would only get a downstream speed of 1mbit/sec (that's about 128kb/sec) when the server was fully loaded. Have you ever tried downloading from Fileplanet, Filefront or any of the similar download networks? They are very, very slow, and you have to wait in queues. That is solely because of the client-server architecture.

Personally, I use ABC (http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net) for torrent downloading, and DC++ (http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net) for downloading single MP3s, albums, or random files :-)

P2P ftw!
Zz00004861 wrote:
22:55 03/01 2007
picture

*me labels Webvictim a copyright abuser*

and Your soo talking about porn when you say "other files"...

You have no idea that a whole street or more use the same broadband lines and when everyone uses their whole lines' bandwidth you have a direct impact on other services for your neighbours.  I felt this worst when I was on the popular cable service in Bristol city, we'd often lose speed or service, but some of that was localised to our modem.

 

Anyhoo the point is that a community street network also has a finite bandwidth and this can be filled easily, causing slower downloads for everyone (and no online gaming).

Stambros wrote:
03:02 03/07 2008
picturelimewire for small downloads
utorrent for big ones
places to download torrents
www.thepiratebay.org , isohunt.com ,btjunkie.org, mininova.com, and many other, but i always find what i need in thos sites
also gamestorrent.com for my ps2 games
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